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So I was absolutely adoring this miniseries through Day Three. I feel like Torchwood has just gotten better and better as it's gone on; season 2 was an improvement on season 1, and this has been even better yet so far. I was a little sad that there were only 5 episodes of the show this year, but the whole not having to wait a week for a new episode thing was pretty awesome. Everything was going so well, and then... they kill off Ianto.

Just... NO. NO NO NO NO NO. HE'S MY FAVORITE! He wasn't what started me watching the show, and he and Jack/Ianto aren't the only things I watch for, but they definitely are what made me fall in love with the show. And there was speculation about him dying earlier this week, and I remember not thinking he would be, but that if he was, I would probably keep watching. But now that it's happened, I'm not so sure. I mean, I'll definitely watch Day 5, but after that, if he's still dead? I don't know. I like Jack more than a lot of people seem to, but him alone isn't enough, and Gwen definitely isn't enough to keep me watching (she's enough to make me not want to watch, really. Ok, actually, she's been totally kickass this season, and I'm hoping that continues, but I haven't forgotten all the ridiculous season 2 stuff about marrying Rhys since Jack wouldn't have her, or whatever).

I was spoiled for his death beforehand, which I was incredibly pissed off about at the start, but now maybe I'm kind of thankful for? I don't know. I think it kind of happened well. I had a few posts on my flist about the show, and everything was under a cut, but someone had their post titled something that alluded to it, and they all seemed to have gloomy moods, so I was like "...ok, so something big happens this episode. But it's probably not Ianto dying, right? I'm just worried because he's my favorite; there's no basis in fact." And then someone in a community unrelated to Torchwood was like "I'm recovering from how emotional Torchwood was!" and I was like "No no, it's not Ianto, maybe... Lois died? Or Rhys? Or no one, really, I'm just overly worried!" And then right after that someone was like (WITH NO WARNING, COME ON) "I'M SO UPSET THAT IANTO DIED" and I was like ";LKJAS;LFKJ NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO." But at least it wasn't as much of a shock? Because I was seriously nervous and worried all day until I was able to finally watch the episode. And if I hadn't known, when it happened, I feel like it would have hurt 1000 times more.

Of course, knowing about it before it happened, I was pretty much crying the entire episode. I think I first started tearing up when Ianto was talking to Jack about how Ianto tells Jack everything and Jack tells him nothing and Jack was like "Well I have a daughter and grandson, for your information" and it was kind of angsty and I was just like "UGH NO BE IN LOVE AND HAPPY AND ASKING FOR SEX AND MAKING OUT COME ON YOU ONLY HAVE 40 MINUTES LEFT" and then I recovered during the loooong negotiations and then I started tearing up again when Jack and Ianto went to the place and I was like "NO IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN" and then when he died I started crying and then after the episode ended I pretty much started sobbing. (Yeah, I just wrote a paragraph and really long run-on sentence over how ridiculously lame I am for being so overinvested in fictional characters' lives, I know.)

Anyways, enough about all my ridiculous emotions and overinvestment and everything. As totally torn up and devastated as I am by this, I haven't given up hope. I mean, for one thing, there's still one episode left. If he was going to be killed off, wouldn't it have happened in the last episode? I don't know, it just feels stupid to kill him off at this point. It's weird. For another thing, WTF YOU JUST KILLED OFF TWO OF THE MAIN CAST MEMBERS AT THE END OF THE LAST SEASON. I mean, that was the main reason I was convinced earlier this week he would survive the miniseries. Because COME ON, THAT'S WAY TOO MUCH DEATH. They already did the shocking major death thing last season (TWICE), so do we really need it AGAIN. Lastly, didn't Rhys die in season 1? Am I making that up? Because I think I remember that happening. And that also happened in the second to last episode? Maybe? I CAN'T REMEMBER UGH. It's been too long since I've watched season 1. But if that did happen and I'm not crazy... maybe it could happen again? I mean, plus, they don't really seem to have any idea of how to defeat these aliens (other than giving them millions of children, which I really don't think is how they're going to end the miniseries, somehow) and they haven't shown any weaknesses and I don't think fighting them would work, so... there can totally be a time reset, right? Please? I'm pretty much just holding out hope for that. If by the end of the miniseries Ianto's still dead, I'm pretty much going to be sobbing ridiculous amounts tomorrow.

One of the saddest things about this for me is just that I was enjoying these episodes so much up until this point, and I realized that I hadn't seen season 2 since it first aired, and I hadn't seen season 1 since second semester of senior year (which is starting to feel like forever ago). So I was like "Oh man, I totally want to do a rewatch now of the entire series!" And I was even thinking of starting at the start of this week, but I decided I'd wait until the miniseries finished and I'd go through that as well. And I was really looking forward to it, but now I've lost all desire to do it. Watching seasons 1 and 2 now are just going to make me depressed at upset at this point. That's one of the things I hate the most, that it's kind of tarnished seasons 1 and 2 for me now, because anytime I watch them now, even the happy moments between Jack and Ianto will be so bittersweet. Ugh, I really hate this. I hope so much that there's a time reset or something to fix this in the next episode, or I'm going to be even more upset than I am now. This is why I need to stick to being obsessed with comedies, I think. I never have to worry about whether Barney or Sheldon is going to get killed off! If Ianto does stay dead after tomorrow's episode, I think I may do my series rewatch of Chuck (that I've been planning on doing since April but haven't yet) instead.


Anyways, all in real life is going well, I guess. Pretty boring, really, but I'm enjoying it. It's a nice rest from how busy last semester was. I am sort of missing being at school, though, which is kind of weird. Last summer I didn't miss it at all and kind of dreaded going back in some ways. I mean, a large part of me doesn't want to go back because I'm terrified about some of my classes (mostly Directed Research), but I'm excited for a lot of stuff, too. It's weird that it's already July, though. It doesn't feel like I've been gone that long, but I've been out for 2 months now. I still have a ways to go, though.

Comments

[evening-star.livejournal.com]

I still can't believe they killed Ianto! He was my favorite too, and I loved his relationship with Jack. We were supposed to get more from them, yet it feels as though they've hardly had much time together.

I was really enjoying this series and having Torchwood back, it was the tv height of the summer, then in the span of 5 minutes it was ruined. Now I'm depressed and almost dreading today's concluding episode. I have very little hope at the moment. :(

Seriously, WTH?!

[http://users.livejournal.com/brokenrecord__/]

I know! In season 1 we really only got a couple of small moments between them in the second half of the season and the kiss, and in season 2 we got more, but it still wasn't a whole lot. They haven't even been together the length of a normal U.S. season, really.

I know, same here! I was so excited that there was new TV and it was every night and it was good, and now I feel like not only has this miniseries been ruined, but I can't even really enjoy the previous two seasons knowing what happens. I'm still holding out a bit of hope that he'll be brought back to life somehow, but I'm not that optimistic.

It just doesn't make any sense! They already killed off two major characters at the end of last season, and they haven't even replaced them yet! There's like no team left at this point! ugh.

[tasheila.livejournal.com]

DNW TOO MUCH DEATH. D: D: D:

i cried so hard whyyyyyyy.

[http://users.livejournal.com/brokenrecord__/]

Ugh I know. Seriously, by the 5th part (which I've now watched) I was half expecting Gwen, Rhys, Lois, and Alice to all be killed off, too. I mean, why not? At that point it's pretty much just Jack being all alone and depressed anyways, so why not go all the way? blah.

I'm kind of surprised I didn't end up bawling through the last episode, too. I think I might still be in shock or denial or something. I'm still partially hoping that somehow Ianto will be brought back in a 4th season, if there is one, even though I know it won't happen.

[singingrl.livejournal.com]

I don't watch "Torchwood" but I did get fully spoiled for it a day or two ago. "Ianto" was a trending topic on Twitter and I made the mistake of clicking on the topic and every tweet was "OH NO NOT IANTO!" or "IANTO's DEAD GUYS! :(". Again, not really sure who Ianto is, I've only watched a few episodes on and off throughout the series run, but I don't think I can watch a show where they kill off a beloved character like that.

[http://users.livejournal.com/brokenrecord__/]

Luckily I'm only on Twitter to stalk certain celebs and I normally don't even look at the trending topics, so I wasn't spoiled by that, but I heard that a lot of people were, which sucks. It's pretty extreme when people who don't even watch the show are getting spoiled for what happens. I've watched the last episode of the series now, and I really don't have any urge to watch any more of it. The thing is, too, that it wasn't only that they killed off Ianto, but they also killed off both Tosh and Owen at the end of last season, and even though that aired a year ago, it was like only 6 episodes ago, so there's just too much death going on. What's the point in getting invested in any of the characters if they're just going to kill them off?

[starryeyedmagic.livejournal.com]

I'm so with you! I was totally unspoiled and I really wasn't expecting it since DUH THEY KILLED OFF 40% OF THEIR CAST LAST YEAR, WHY WOULD THEY KILL MORE? I just sobbed. Like it was ridiculous how upset I was. LOLOL OH ME.

But I think the most upsetting part is that I don't understand WHY! Like, what was the point? It's one thing if a major character dies and it really benefits the story or gives the character a lot of development or something but this didn't really do that. I mean, sure it was great that Jack and Ianto went in there to save the world and all that but his death didn't make what he was doing already seem more important.

Was it just to make Jack more broken so he'd have to leave at the end? I don't get why they would have to "break" Jack at all. My favorite things about him are his zest for life and his smirky suggestive comments. I don't need to see him murder his grandson. JESUS! I find angsty dark stuff interesting sometimes but this took it way too far.

And I also found myself kind of indifferent to the main plot since Ianto was dead. Like I really didn't care if they saved the world anymore. It's a TV show so the "end of the world" only means something if you have characters in that world to care about. I thought it was a really poor choice in terms of storytelling/writing.

[http://users.livejournal.com/brokenrecord__/]

I know, seriously! That was the only reason I was so sure that Ianto would live through this series! I was like "They just killed off 2/5 members, they wouldn't really leave their main cast at only 2 by killing off another!" I didn't even think it was a possibility until people started worrying about it. And I sobbed ridiculous amounts. I can't remember the last time I cried that hard, so I'm totally with you there!

I KNOW. WTF. What the hell did that accomplis? I guess if Ianto was still around, maybe he would've stayed? But there was enough for him to be angsty over as it was (SUCH AS KILLING HIS GRANDSON), and it would've been pretty sad if Ianto was begging him to stay and he was just too devastated over everything. I don't know. And yeah, his death was kind of anti-climactic. I was hoping he'd at least go out saving someone or something, but instead it was just like "Oh hey, there's poison in the air, and you're going to die in a few seconds! Good job at trying to defeat the 456 there!"

Yeah, same. I kind of hoped that they'd end up killing off more people or something. I don't know. And I actually hoped that they wouldn't save the world and that the 456 would take the millions of children, but that's mostly because then I'd have hope that somehow this would be fixed either in season 4 or on Doctor Who or something. But yeah, it's definitely a poor choice in storytelling for me because it's like I don't really have anyone to root for anymore. And I said it in another comment, but really, why bother watching and getting invested in characters if I feel like they're just going to kill them off? At least on Joss Whedon shows (which I've seen people compare this too), it would be like one major death a season of a large cast; it wasn't 3 out of 5 major characters dying in the span of 6 episodes. ugh.