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brokenrecordMy parents and I finally got to the Wesley episodes of season 3 of Buffy! We had left off at The Zeppo and then my mom was in Minnesota the weekend after that and then we were finishing up Dexter the weekend after that, but now we're finally back to Buffy. I mean, I don't love Wesley on Buffy at all (although he's pretty amusing, especially when Giles is sniping at him), but he's my absolute favorite character on Angel, so it's exciting to see him. I think he might have the most drastic development of any character on either series. And there's Faith! I mean, she was in the earlier episodes of the season as well, but still. I've rediscovered my Faith love this summer, and this is basically the start of it all going downhill for her.
I wrote up a bunch of thoughts while watching Angel a few weeks ago, but then I was kind of overwhelmed by the end of season 5 (even though I was spoiled and knew what was going to happen; in fact, I had seen quite a few of the episodes from the end of the season) so I wanted to distance myself from the show for a little. And now I've moved on to other obsessions (namely True Blood), so I forgot about it. But here are the random thoughts I had while watching the show:
1. I really, really hate Kate. Like, at the beginning she was just kind of annoying and boring, and I was like "Ok, I remember why I wasn't a huge fan of her, but whatever, I can live with it." But then she just got so ridiculously irritating. I don't really understand why she suddenly decides to hate Angel. Her whole speech in that one episode about blaming Angel for all the innocent people that she's fighting for that he ignores because he's going after the demons or whatever was just so wtf. I mean, THAT'S WHAT ANGEL DOES. Have you been paying attention at all? He DOES save the innocent people. And by destroying demons and vampires, he saves many innocent people! And she pretty much acts like it's his fault that vampires and demons exist in the first place. It's just so... ugh. At least Kate/Angel never happened. That would be the worst ever. And she disappeared after season 2, so that was good.
2. I LOVE FRED IN HER FIRST FEW EPISODES. I have no idea why I suddenly fell in love with her for the episodes where she was acting all crazy since I've seen them all before, but I did! Like with Wesley, I never hated her before or anything, I liked her well enough, but this time around I was super excited for her to show up. And when she did finally show up at the end of season 2, I was just like "FRED!!!" and pretty much just had an outpouring of love for her. I mean, I don't hate her once she starts getting more normal, but I'd definitely classify my feelings towards her as more of a like than a love.
3. I love Wesley more than anyone in the Angelverse. I don't even know what to say about him. I just adore him so much. My number one ship on the show is Wesley/Fred, but I think 90% of that is just because he's so in love with her and I want him to be happy. I adore Wesley/Lilah as well because they're awesome, and he does really end up caring about her, maybe even loving her, but I ship him with Fred just a little bit more only because I know him being with Fred would make him happier. (Yes, I'm aware he's a fictional character. This is what I meant after I finished watching and was like "Yeah, I got a little overinvested in the show there at the end.")
3. I enjoy the Wesley/Gunn friendship so much in seasons 1-2. I hate that things get screwed up between them because of Fred. Well, mostly because of Gunn. Because even if they're both in love with her, Gunn could have been such a better friend and so much more reasonable towards Wesley. He knew Wesley was into her (EVERYONE did), and I'm not saying he should have asked his permission to ask her out or anything (I mean, it's up to Fred, you know? I don't have an issue with him asking her out at all), but he could have either given Wesley a head's up, or at the VERY LEAST not acted like a complete dick to Wesley about it. I mean... just... HE KNEW. So he shouldn't have acted so bitchy towards Wesley throughout the end of season 3 and even moreso through season 4 when he's the one who's with Fred and he was aware of Wesley's feelings for her from the get-go.
4. I really liked Gunn until Supersymmetry. I hate him deciding to kill the professor first and taking the choice away from Fred. And I hate how upset he is about Wesley helping Fred considering how Fred went to Wesley, not the other way around, and it's more her responsibility in not getting with Wesley than the other way around. That's one of my biggest pet peeves, when one person in a couple cheats on the other and the other person blames the person they cheated with more than the person they're in a relationship with. It's Fred's responsibility not to cheat on Gunn, not Wesley's. Yeah, it's a dick move to get together with someone when you know they're with someone else, especially if you are or used to be friends with the other person, but the blame should still be more on the person who's actually in a relationship. And anyways, even after Supersymmetry, what really killed him for me was after Wesley kissed Fred, Gunn basically says "SHE'S MINE" or something to the same effect, and just UGH. I HATE when guys refer to girls as "theirs." Newsflash: they're their own person and can make their own choices. Asshole. I adored that Wesley's response to that was basically "Really, I didn't realize there was a deed to Fred" or whatever, indicating that he doesn't believe that women actually belong to their boyfriends.
5. I think I start disliking Cordelia once she gets her hair cut. It just gets worse and worse. Well, her hair in season 5 is fine, but she's not exactly on the show very much that season. I could handle the shortish hair at the beginning of season 3, but the super short hair with the blonde is just so ugly. She's supposed to be in her very early 20s at this point (no older than like 22), and she looks like she's in her 30s. It's weird! Actually, my dislike is more because I'm resentful towards her for the whole Cordelia/Angel thing. It's just so stupid. I mean, part of it is being a Buffy/Angel shipper, but I'm way more okay with Buffy/Spike because I can at least see where that comes from. I don't understand what the hell Angel's doing. Ok, fall in love with her, whatever, but why would he ever consider telling her? It just doesn't seem in character at all. He was in love with Buffy and left her because of being afraid of losing his soul and thinking she should have a normal, human boyfriend. Why would this be different with Cordelia? He still can't sleep with her (unless he thinks sleeping with her wouldn't make him perfectly happy, which he apparently does according to his perfect day scenario), and all the same things apply. I just don't get it. It would make sense to me if he realized he loved her but was like "NO I MUSN'T SHE DESERVES BETTER AND I CAN'T RISK LOSING MY SOUL." That's way more Angel. ugh.
6. The whole Cordy/Angel/Connor drama in season 4 is ridiculous and annoying and I pretty much didn't look at the screen when that stuff was going on. I liked that all the stuff in Awakening didn't actually happen, and I was thrilled that Cordy ended up not really being her the entire season, because otherwise... ugh.
7. Gwen was annoying in her first episode, but I started liking her more in her later appearances. But she was much better than Eve. I mean, I know Eve isn't supposed to be a good character, and at the end she's basically pathetic, but that still doesn't mean I enjoyed watching scenes with her. I think it was the actress, really.
8. Making Gunn all super law guy is weird and kind of stupid. They couldn't find anything else for him to do? Basically all of season 4 is about him being super insecure and being all "There's nothing more to me than being the muscle guy!" and so the way they solve that is making him more? Implying that he was right and already wasn't any more than that? It just seems... I don't know. Condescending? That's not quite the right word, but seriously. It's stupid.
9. What the hell does everyone who isn't Angel remember about seasons 3 and 4? Like, what happened with the false The Father will kill The Son prophecy? Did Wesley still betray everyone in another way? Was it all just erased? What about The Beast and how Cordelia got to be where she was? Connor was connected to a lot of major stuff that went on.
10. I like a lot of stuff in season 5, but I don't like how disconnected the team feels. Before they were all just in the one building and doing everything together so even if they weren't the focus of the episode, they still got substantial scenes and attention. It feels like in this season they're so separated, and there's a lot less interaction between them. I think part of that is focusing so much on Spike, too. I enjoy him, but I'd rather get more time with the whole team. (And mostly I just really wanted a whole lot more Wesley, Fred, and Wesley/Fred.) I don't even like Gunn anymore, but he does basically nothing. Yeah, he has lawyer-y things going on and he helps figure out things sometimes, but he's not involved with any of the other characters. It's all business, and then he goes off, and I don't get any sense that he or any of them are family like they were before.
11. Grumpy puppet Angel was one of the most adorable things I've seen ever. Also, fanged-out puppet Angel. I can't believe I had never seen that episode before. I had heard how awesome it was before I saw it and I wasn't sure it could live up to my expectations, but it definitely did.
12. Can Wesley ever catch a break? God. He tries to protect Connor and Angel and gets his throat slit and is shunned by his friends. He may not have loved Lilah as much as he loved Fred, but he definitely did care for her a lot, and she gets killed. His father never approves of him or shows him any love and Wesley ends up killing him (and ok, not really him, but he thought it was him and angsted over it for awhile). He's in love with Fred from the start and she goes for Gunn and then Knox and then when they FINALLY get together, about 5 seconds later, a demon possesses her body and kills her. They get to be together for like a day and that's it. They don't even get a full episode! That's pretty much what I was talking about when I was like "The end of season 5 really kills me." Because I was aware that Fred would die and Illyria would show up and that Wesley would die at the end of the series (I even saw most of those episodes; the only one I didn't see was the one where she actually dies), but I wasn't aware that they were together for only ONE EPISODE (NOT EVEN A WHOLE EPISODE) before it happened. I didn't know which episode they'd actually get together in and I was really hoping it would be early in the season, but as it progressed and it was clear they weren't any closer to getting together, I was like "Please let them at least get one full episode to be together. That's all I ask." BUT NO. ugh.
13. My response to the whole Fred getting infected by Illyria thing was basically: THANK YOU GUNN FOR RUINING EVERYTHING EVER. Okay, so there's talk about it being fated or whatever, but STILL.
14. I love Connor most in his very first appearance when he comes in and is all "Hi, Dad" and when he comes back in season 5 and is semi-reasonable. I got kind of bored of his angst in season 4 (even though I enjoyed season 4 far more than I expected).
15. As much as I hate that Fred died and wanted so much more Wes/Fred time, Illyria is pretty kickass, and I do like the relationship she and Wesley have. Mostly I want from Smile Time on to be split up into two seasons; the rest of season 5 could have been Wes/Fred finally having a relationship and being happy for a little while, and season 6 could have been her dying and Illyria rising and then Illyria integrating into the team and all that stuff. I mean, obviously they didn't have that option, I don't know if they decided to kill Fred before or after knowing it would be the last season, but still. I would've wanted to see that.
Anyways, I randomly feel like rewatching both seasons of The Big Bang Theory and then picspamming the show. I don't know why. Well, I'm feeling like randomly picspamming everything since I haven't done a picspam in ages and I'm leaving to go back to school on the 23rd and won't have much time during the semester to picspam anything. But there's no real reason for me to want to rewatch TBBT in particular. I haven't had a great urge to rewatch Chuck even though I was planning a rewatch for the second last semester ended and I got home. I don't know. I'm feeling kind of out of sorts having so little time left at home. I feel like I need to get all this different stuff in that I know I won't have time for once I leave.
At some point in the next week, I really need to start going through all my stuff and figuring out what I want to take with me. And I need to search for socks, because I've somehow managed to lose track of like half my socks since I've been home. And I feel like I need to review German ridiculous amounts. I feel like I've forgotten 90% of what I learned of German in the past year. I was trying to remember just the basic pronouns and it took me way longer than it should have. I'm not really sure that I'm going to be able to fit all the stuff I need to do in with all the stuff I'm having random urges to do.
I wrote up a bunch of thoughts while watching Angel a few weeks ago, but then I was kind of overwhelmed by the end of season 5 (even though I was spoiled and knew what was going to happen; in fact, I had seen quite a few of the episodes from the end of the season) so I wanted to distance myself from the show for a little. And now I've moved on to other obsessions (namely True Blood), so I forgot about it. But here are the random thoughts I had while watching the show:
1. I really, really hate Kate. Like, at the beginning she was just kind of annoying and boring, and I was like "Ok, I remember why I wasn't a huge fan of her, but whatever, I can live with it." But then she just got so ridiculously irritating. I don't really understand why she suddenly decides to hate Angel. Her whole speech in that one episode about blaming Angel for all the innocent people that she's fighting for that he ignores because he's going after the demons or whatever was just so wtf. I mean, THAT'S WHAT ANGEL DOES. Have you been paying attention at all? He DOES save the innocent people. And by destroying demons and vampires, he saves many innocent people! And she pretty much acts like it's his fault that vampires and demons exist in the first place. It's just so... ugh. At least Kate/Angel never happened. That would be the worst ever. And she disappeared after season 2, so that was good.
2. I LOVE FRED IN HER FIRST FEW EPISODES. I have no idea why I suddenly fell in love with her for the episodes where she was acting all crazy since I've seen them all before, but I did! Like with Wesley, I never hated her before or anything, I liked her well enough, but this time around I was super excited for her to show up. And when she did finally show up at the end of season 2, I was just like "FRED!!!" and pretty much just had an outpouring of love for her. I mean, I don't hate her once she starts getting more normal, but I'd definitely classify my feelings towards her as more of a like than a love.
3. I love Wesley more than anyone in the Angelverse. I don't even know what to say about him. I just adore him so much. My number one ship on the show is Wesley/Fred, but I think 90% of that is just because he's so in love with her and I want him to be happy. I adore Wesley/Lilah as well because they're awesome, and he does really end up caring about her, maybe even loving her, but I ship him with Fred just a little bit more only because I know him being with Fred would make him happier. (Yes, I'm aware he's a fictional character. This is what I meant after I finished watching and was like "Yeah, I got a little overinvested in the show there at the end.")
3. I enjoy the Wesley/Gunn friendship so much in seasons 1-2. I hate that things get screwed up between them because of Fred. Well, mostly because of Gunn. Because even if they're both in love with her, Gunn could have been such a better friend and so much more reasonable towards Wesley. He knew Wesley was into her (EVERYONE did), and I'm not saying he should have asked his permission to ask her out or anything (I mean, it's up to Fred, you know? I don't have an issue with him asking her out at all), but he could have either given Wesley a head's up, or at the VERY LEAST not acted like a complete dick to Wesley about it. I mean... just... HE KNEW. So he shouldn't have acted so bitchy towards Wesley throughout the end of season 3 and even moreso through season 4 when he's the one who's with Fred and he was aware of Wesley's feelings for her from the get-go.
4. I really liked Gunn until Supersymmetry. I hate him deciding to kill the professor first and taking the choice away from Fred. And I hate how upset he is about Wesley helping Fred considering how Fred went to Wesley, not the other way around, and it's more her responsibility in not getting with Wesley than the other way around. That's one of my biggest pet peeves, when one person in a couple cheats on the other and the other person blames the person they cheated with more than the person they're in a relationship with. It's Fred's responsibility not to cheat on Gunn, not Wesley's. Yeah, it's a dick move to get together with someone when you know they're with someone else, especially if you are or used to be friends with the other person, but the blame should still be more on the person who's actually in a relationship. And anyways, even after Supersymmetry, what really killed him for me was after Wesley kissed Fred, Gunn basically says "SHE'S MINE" or something to the same effect, and just UGH. I HATE when guys refer to girls as "theirs." Newsflash: they're their own person and can make their own choices. Asshole. I adored that Wesley's response to that was basically "Really, I didn't realize there was a deed to Fred" or whatever, indicating that he doesn't believe that women actually belong to their boyfriends.
5. I think I start disliking Cordelia once she gets her hair cut. It just gets worse and worse. Well, her hair in season 5 is fine, but she's not exactly on the show very much that season. I could handle the shortish hair at the beginning of season 3, but the super short hair with the blonde is just so ugly. She's supposed to be in her very early 20s at this point (no older than like 22), and she looks like she's in her 30s. It's weird! Actually, my dislike is more because I'm resentful towards her for the whole Cordelia/Angel thing. It's just so stupid. I mean, part of it is being a Buffy/Angel shipper, but I'm way more okay with Buffy/Spike because I can at least see where that comes from. I don't understand what the hell Angel's doing. Ok, fall in love with her, whatever, but why would he ever consider telling her? It just doesn't seem in character at all. He was in love with Buffy and left her because of being afraid of losing his soul and thinking she should have a normal, human boyfriend. Why would this be different with Cordelia? He still can't sleep with her (unless he thinks sleeping with her wouldn't make him perfectly happy, which he apparently does according to his perfect day scenario), and all the same things apply. I just don't get it. It would make sense to me if he realized he loved her but was like "NO I MUSN'T SHE DESERVES BETTER AND I CAN'T RISK LOSING MY SOUL." That's way more Angel. ugh.
6. The whole Cordy/Angel/Connor drama in season 4 is ridiculous and annoying and I pretty much didn't look at the screen when that stuff was going on. I liked that all the stuff in Awakening didn't actually happen, and I was thrilled that Cordy ended up not really being her the entire season, because otherwise... ugh.
7. Gwen was annoying in her first episode, but I started liking her more in her later appearances. But she was much better than Eve. I mean, I know Eve isn't supposed to be a good character, and at the end she's basically pathetic, but that still doesn't mean I enjoyed watching scenes with her. I think it was the actress, really.
8. Making Gunn all super law guy is weird and kind of stupid. They couldn't find anything else for him to do? Basically all of season 4 is about him being super insecure and being all "There's nothing more to me than being the muscle guy!" and so the way they solve that is making him more? Implying that he was right and already wasn't any more than that? It just seems... I don't know. Condescending? That's not quite the right word, but seriously. It's stupid.
9. What the hell does everyone who isn't Angel remember about seasons 3 and 4? Like, what happened with the false The Father will kill The Son prophecy? Did Wesley still betray everyone in another way? Was it all just erased? What about The Beast and how Cordelia got to be where she was? Connor was connected to a lot of major stuff that went on.
10. I like a lot of stuff in season 5, but I don't like how disconnected the team feels. Before they were all just in the one building and doing everything together so even if they weren't the focus of the episode, they still got substantial scenes and attention. It feels like in this season they're so separated, and there's a lot less interaction between them. I think part of that is focusing so much on Spike, too. I enjoy him, but I'd rather get more time with the whole team. (And mostly I just really wanted a whole lot more Wesley, Fred, and Wesley/Fred.) I don't even like Gunn anymore, but he does basically nothing. Yeah, he has lawyer-y things going on and he helps figure out things sometimes, but he's not involved with any of the other characters. It's all business, and then he goes off, and I don't get any sense that he or any of them are family like they were before.
11. Grumpy puppet Angel was one of the most adorable things I've seen ever. Also, fanged-out puppet Angel. I can't believe I had never seen that episode before. I had heard how awesome it was before I saw it and I wasn't sure it could live up to my expectations, but it definitely did.
12. Can Wesley ever catch a break? God. He tries to protect Connor and Angel and gets his throat slit and is shunned by his friends. He may not have loved Lilah as much as he loved Fred, but he definitely did care for her a lot, and she gets killed. His father never approves of him or shows him any love and Wesley ends up killing him (and ok, not really him, but he thought it was him and angsted over it for awhile). He's in love with Fred from the start and she goes for Gunn and then Knox and then when they FINALLY get together, about 5 seconds later, a demon possesses her body and kills her. They get to be together for like a day and that's it. They don't even get a full episode! That's pretty much what I was talking about when I was like "The end of season 5 really kills me." Because I was aware that Fred would die and Illyria would show up and that Wesley would die at the end of the series (I even saw most of those episodes; the only one I didn't see was the one where she actually dies), but I wasn't aware that they were together for only ONE EPISODE (NOT EVEN A WHOLE EPISODE) before it happened. I didn't know which episode they'd actually get together in and I was really hoping it would be early in the season, but as it progressed and it was clear they weren't any closer to getting together, I was like "Please let them at least get one full episode to be together. That's all I ask." BUT NO. ugh.
13. My response to the whole Fred getting infected by Illyria thing was basically: THANK YOU GUNN FOR RUINING EVERYTHING EVER. Okay, so there's talk about it being fated or whatever, but STILL.
14. I love Connor most in his very first appearance when he comes in and is all "Hi, Dad" and when he comes back in season 5 and is semi-reasonable. I got kind of bored of his angst in season 4 (even though I enjoyed season 4 far more than I expected).
15. As much as I hate that Fred died and wanted so much more Wes/Fred time, Illyria is pretty kickass, and I do like the relationship she and Wesley have. Mostly I want from Smile Time on to be split up into two seasons; the rest of season 5 could have been Wes/Fred finally having a relationship and being happy for a little while, and season 6 could have been her dying and Illyria rising and then Illyria integrating into the team and all that stuff. I mean, obviously they didn't have that option, I don't know if they decided to kill Fred before or after knowing it would be the last season, but still. I would've wanted to see that.
Anyways, I randomly feel like rewatching both seasons of The Big Bang Theory and then picspamming the show. I don't know why. Well, I'm feeling like randomly picspamming everything since I haven't done a picspam in ages and I'm leaving to go back to school on the 23rd and won't have much time during the semester to picspam anything. But there's no real reason for me to want to rewatch TBBT in particular. I haven't had a great urge to rewatch Chuck even though I was planning a rewatch for the second last semester ended and I got home. I don't know. I'm feeling kind of out of sorts having so little time left at home. I feel like I need to get all this different stuff in that I know I won't have time for once I leave.
At some point in the next week, I really need to start going through all my stuff and figuring out what I want to take with me. And I need to search for socks, because I've somehow managed to lose track of like half my socks since I've been home. And I feel like I need to review German ridiculous amounts. I feel like I've forgotten 90% of what I learned of German in the past year. I was trying to remember just the basic pronouns and it took me way longer than it should have. I'm not really sure that I'm going to be able to fit all the stuff I need to do in with all the stuff I'm having random urges to do.
